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January 11, 2010

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Shuaib Suria AHEALTH

Hi Karin

Interesting pondering!

As someone who has used Aweber for about a year (and I believe it was on yours and Ed Rivis's say-so) for a hobby that is slowly turning into a business, I can foresee myself running into similar problems at some point in the future, although it present it seems to be more than capable for what I am doing (and in fact I still have yet to try some other features of it like combining it with Paypal etc, but currently I am just getting to grips with their shiny new webforms that they have recently added).

So yes it would be good if there was a 'comprehensive almost fully automated (in the sense that it triggered you to communicate (in more that one way) with different contacts in turn at logical, manageable intervals) so that you always feel on top of things and your clients (prospect as well as actual and past) think you are just fantastic because you wish them a happy birthday every year (at the right time of course!), ask them how your service was, whether they need any further assistance, how their dog Rex is, has the snow now melted away from the lake near their home etc etc and loads of other personalised relevant communications as if they were your only customer in the world!

So I look forward with some anticipation to learn what you have come up with, and I might as well also start trialling it in good time so I am ready to migrate when the need for it becomes apparent (as I am sure you agree, changing systems in midair is another major headache that small businesses face now and again, so I trust you will cover that point too (ie how easy is it proving for you to jump ship onto this new system that you have opted for)).

Thanks

Shuaib

Karin H.

Hi Shuaib

That's indeed the plan: writing also about the transfer of data itself and how easy it was - and what problems I encountered, as you do of course with any new system (but all in all they weren't that great a problems).
One tip upfront: whenever you capture names etc from website visitors, start splitting the field name into field firstname and field lastname ;-)

I'll also cover how the search for such a program was, what the parameters were - for two different types of businesses, because it was a joint search between me and a good friend - and why in the end one on the shortlist was declared "the winner".

Staying on top of things almost automagically was a pre, but then again the focus should IMHO always be on the strategies and tactics, not the tool itself and that can change the parameters and search.

Talk to you soon.

Karin H

Shuaib Suria AHEALTH

Ok good tip:
Split name & surname, and I can see why this can be a problem in some instances (eg in an email you can get away with just the informal first name, but if you then decide to send a letter out in future, it would look a bit shoddy saying Dear Mr Firstname), and on that note I would venture that it's also wise to get their title at some point as you wouldn't to hazard a guess that it's Mr Firstname Surname, and then rudely find out it was actually Mrs Firstname Surname!!

Now to return the favour, Karin, here's a a tip for you (although I am sure you are aware of it and got it covered somehow):

I think you really need a "notify of follow-up comments by email" tickbox at the bottom of the comment boxes (like many blogs now have), reason being when you replied to my above comment, I never got an email to alert me to come back and read your reply, and make further replies (to keep the conversation going) - it was just by chance that I decided to visit your blog again this morning.

But like I said, you are probably aware of this, and I am you had that option in some form or other before, for some reason I can't see it recently.

Thanks

Shuaib

Karin H.

Morning Shuaib

Indeed that's the problem I encountered when uploading AWeber subscribers to the new program (the contacts in our existing separate CRM program had that split already). Funny you should mention titles too - when I asked a related question about this during an online workshop, pointing out I was brought up "conventional" and like to address everyone in letters as Mr or Mr & Mrs, I was "accused" of being polite and having old fashion manners ;-) (But the "title problem" got sorted quickly).

As for your own suggestion about auto follow new comments - I wish that was possible here indeed (and I've asked Typepad/Sixapart for it quite often for it, but alas - it is still on their "to-do-list").

What I use myself to keep track of reply to comments I leave left right and centre all over the www: I've set up a cocomment account which shows a little icon in the bottom bar of my browser if the program found a new reply on any of the blogs I commented on too. Not as good as email notifications, but workable.

Karin H.

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